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Oh, and I guess I forgot to mention that suposedly: a king "of a people" would continue to be so even if he (or she, if it be a female monarch) were to loose their land.... this all is ofcourse "technically" though as stated before, most deposed and exhiled kings or their in-exhile-sucessors...

King of a Place vs King of a people That is correct. A King or Queen of "a place" (Queen of Great Britain, King of France, King of the Congo :rolleyes:) all would in theory loose their title if they were to loose their land - meaning, if there was some sort of revolution or the royal family...

Does anyone know of the existence of any regalia besides the crown in the Gallery of Apolo in the Louvre and the Coronation mantle of the king at the museum in Chartes in existence? I know there is a crown worn by the Dauphin in the coronation of his father (Charles X) in existence - I have...

A little something about the title of Don/Doña in front of the names of the sons and daughters of the Infantas and the Royal family: Don/Doña are actually vestigial abreviations for "domino: & "domina" = lord/lady in Latin. In Spain, the king, queen, and royal family are often referred to...

Oh, I think they would look beautiful - though I must admit, that perhaps a bit anachronistic - which may sound almost hypocritical of me (such a stiff suporter of the old guard) but it's the truth: The monarchy is not at fault, perhaps I'd venture to say it is society at large: people...

Here's a cropped version of the painting depicting Gustav III's coronation - by Pilo. It's the best (in terms of color/resolution/definition) I could find that showed the actual crowning.... the real picture is much larger and encompasses quite a large view of the church/cathedral where it...

My great-grandmother was from Spain, and I inherited my matilla from her through grandma and mum :) I've been in Spain a couple of times, once with a group of friends during Easter in Seville (amazing!) and I made them all dress up and wear mantillas (one of my friends still refused to wear...

Thanks Daneborn - it was actually bugging me by now (I knew she had a name...but was hoping someone would post it for us....and you did! :) Eitherway, now we know title and name - she still is the "pretty princess in the veil" :) wouldn't you agree? :)

It depends what you mean by "court" since technically, everyday was "court-day" in Versailles. The amount of etiquette, constant attendance upon the King by both servants/officers and by-standers, made of everything an important -and more than likely- what we would consider formal. There were...

Oh, here's the link to the pictures of the cypher/monograms of the demoiselles d'honneur of Russia: http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/f80/court-dress-art-miscellaneous-romanovs-7708-2.html#post418746

Here they are: 1. An image from the Hermitage museum website, for the sake of completeness and it's the monogram badge of Catherine the Great(?) 2. Its a 19c. demoiselle d'honneur of the Tsarina Alexandra (?) Her name (and excuse if I transliterate the cyrillic script wrong) is Natalia...

LOL spelling can be tricky sometimes :) As far as mantillas with comb go, yes, the "traditional" one sees have their origins in Seville and Andalucia regions - these, though they were falling into disuse, have made somewhat of a comeback - especially during Holy-Week and Easter (hopefully all...

They must get along very well... otherwise I doubt that the new lady in waiting (apart from her quite pretty and attention grabbing red-hair) has worn, at least on some of the pictures posted here, more colorful outfits than the Crown Princess....Ussually, a lady-in-waiting will wear something...

A friend just sent me by mail a picture of a painting of a demoiselle d'honneur of the Tsarina, in full red velvet court dress, kokoshnik, veil and cypher. Also, another image of a real-life diamond chiphre/cypher of the late Tsarina Alexandra, I believe, with its respective St. Andrew's-blue...

Merci beaucoup! I study human-behavior, etiquette is the most formal representation, if not to say the most exalted... I'm biased, ofcourse, because I like it :) It is actually very hard getting the bits and pieces of French Court etiquette, for it is dective work: reading and sorting and...

Does anyone have a clear pic of the monogram that the different ladies in waiting wear? What material are they made of? In russia the imperial monogram was in diamonds (a friend of mine just sent me a pic of a most-beautiful one... I have to scan it in the proper thread, and I'll link it here...

Oh, also, only the Princesses and the Duchesses would be allowed to kiss the king or a member of the royal family on both cheeks: untitled nobles only on 1 cheek, and the commoners, well, just bow as down as they could manage! (this rule, however, mustn't have applied their many...

Oh, I saw the picture of the princess (on #2) a couple of days back in another of the Swedish threads...so she's there, I just don't recall the http: adress off of the top of my head - understandable, Ithink :) but on to the point: it said on the caption that it was the day of her first...

Well, there were many rules to curtseys in the French court: for example, if you saluted someone higher in the hierarchy than yourself, you would put your best/right food forward and bend your body at the waist (and more than likely "scrape" the floor with the plumes of your hat). If you were...

To go in order, and do justice: many thanks to Lyle for the Princess Sybilla pictures - she looked wonderful in the ceremonial robes. And now to Fraxales: you ARE on a roll :) Lovely pictures. I especially enjoy the one of the plenary parliamentary session: it has nothing to envy of the...

I'm so keen on the lenght of trains and the amount/age/sex of the trainbearers because they seem to pop up in all events where mantles or trains were worn... I'll list some documented examples I've found in my research, which though not especifically swedish, perhaps it will spark someone...

All of their trains seem quite long... you say you have the picture of a queen with 2 train bearers (I remember seing it once, though haven't seen it since) - now it makes me wonder if the other Princesses had a trainbearer at least also (?)

Fraxales, HI! :) Sorry I took so long to reply (was on vacation) but I hope you pass by this thread again. Those would be great pics to have on this discussion - if they're on your computer, you can go to a site like photobucket.com, and host it from there, and paste the url-adress they...

Also, I wonder if the brides of the Imperial House of Romanov still wear (if not the heavy robes) the bridal crown and tiara etc. for their weddings.... I know those are probably in a museum (I think the crown was here in America owned by a rich heiress at some point) but since it was tradition...

And here is the mantle especially made for the Tsarina-bride (plain gold) vs. her coronation gown embroidered all over.