General Questions About The Ruling Family Of Abu Dhabi 1:

[whitepaper]

I haven't seen Hamdan bin Zayed present at diplomatic meetings before, but he was present today. What to infer from this ?

And also he sat before Mansour. Tahnoun sat after Mansour followed by Saif, I think this order was in line with their new positions. Because I always see Mansour sitting after Saif and Tahnoun in the order of age.

So why is Hamdan present in this meeting ? Will we see more of him in coming days.
Most importantly Hazza is still missing. Why ?

 

[feiraguy]

No, the correct order is in the news from the official government portal (WAM), which I detailed in my post. What happens is that in practice the Sheikhs don't seem to care so much about it.

As we discussed earlier, the team that MBZ brings to his events is very flexible and must involve both the President's will and the availability of the other Sheikhs.

Hamdan has participated in other events with international leaders earlier this year (if I'm not mistaken, this is the eighth), as well as Hazza has already missed several. It is not necessary to find a reason to justify Hamdan's presence or Hazza's absence.

 

[feiraguy]

I’m somewhat surprised the children on Khalifa bin Zayed are still involved in such things.

However, in the wiki leaks, it said Khalifa was well liked and backed as he was full nahyan.

I guess his sons are apart of some councils or the family business?
Obviously Khalifa left his children his huge estate.

what do you mean by "involved in such things"?

I didn't understand your questions very well

 

[Purplerain]

Being a part of meeting heads of state.
Khalif bin zayed’s children were on there.

 

[whitepaper]

Yes, Hamdan did participate but at majlis, not at formal meetings..from what I have observed. But as you said availability matters. It's refreshing to see Tahnoun present at non gulf leader's visit.

 

[Imanmajed]

No, the correct order is in the news from the official government portal (WAM), which I detailed in my post. What happens is that in practice the Sheikhs don't seem to care so much about it.

Hamdan has participated in other events with international leaders earlier this year (if I'm not mistaken, this is the eighth), as well as Hazza has already missed several. It is not necessary to find a reason to justify Hamdan's presence or Hazza's absence.

Absolutely correct...

 

[whitepaper]

Being a part of meeting heads of state.
Khalif bin zayed’s children were on there.

I think Feiraguy listed the order of importance of sheikhs as per their titles etc. Khalifa's sons were not part of these meetings, atleast not today's.

 

[Puchu]

According to the political culture of leadership book, Aisha Al Darmaki's second eldest son got married to a daughter of Mohammad bin Butti Al Hamid Qubaisi, this means Nahyan bin Zayed married that woman. Is this authentic?

 

[Puchu]

Do you guys know which branch of the Al Nahyans can be Fakhra bint Nahyan (parents: Salama and Nahyan) who married an Al Qassimi? Her daughter Salama has just had a third child named Fakhra I guess after grandmother.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Frlgj3YWwAEIxph?format=jpg&name=small

I think she is Fakhra bint Nahyan bin Hamdan and her mother is also Salama bint Mohammed bin Khalid.

Do you know the Al Qassimi husband's full name?

 

[feiraguy]

Yes, Hamdan did participate but at majlis, not at formal meetings..from what I have observed. But as you said availability matters. It's refreshing to see Tahnoun present at non gulf leader's visit.

It's not that rare to see him in meetings with international leaders, even excluding the majlis. I made this quick list containing the meetings that Hamdan attended and the other participants

15/04: President of Brazil (Mohamed, Mansour, Khalid bin Mohamed, Tahnoun, Hamdan, Saif, Abdullah, Hamdan bin Mohamed, Mohamed bin Hamad)
02/03: King of Malaysia (Hamdan, Hazza bin Hamdan) - this meeting has headed by Hamdan
12/02: President of Egypt (Mohamed, Hamdan, Tahnoun bin Mohamed, Hazza, Saif, Tahnoun, Mansour)
08/02: King of Bahrain (Mohamed, Hamdan, Mansour, Mohamed bin Hamad, Sultan bin Hamdan bin Zayed)
19/01: King of Bahrain (Mohamed, Hamdan, Abdullah, Hamdan bin Mohamed, Mohamed bin Hamad)

I think Feiraguy listed the order of importance of sheikhs as per their titles etc. Khalifa's sons were not part of these meetings, atleast not today's.

that's right, thank you

 

[whitepaper]

For the first time am seeing Zayed MBZ. He looks exactly like young MBZ. He is making public appearances too. Interesting.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CrGTPteotg4/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

 

[Serenei]

I think she is Fakhra bint Nahyan bin Hamdan and her mother is also Salama bint Mohammed bin Khalid.

Do you know the Al Qassimi husband's full name?

The name of Salama's husband is Mohammed bin Mayed Al Qassimi. They had their third child baby Fakhra. From Salama's account on instagram I assume they married in 2020. In 2021 they had Sheikha, then in 2022 Hamdan and now in March 2023 baby Fakhra.

Do you know whom did Fakhra bint Nahyan bin Hamdan marry? Also which brand is Nahyan bin Hamdan?

 

[Puchu]

The name of Salama's husband is Mohammed bin Mayed Al Qassimi.

Do you know whom did Fakhra bint Nahyan bin Hamdan marry? Also which brand is Nahyan bin Hamdan?

What is Salama's full name? Is she also an Al Qassimi?
I actually made a mistake. I thought you were talking about a daughter of Nahyan Al Nahyan and Salama Al Nahyan. As I knew Salama bint Mohammed bin Khalid married Nahyan bin Hamdan, so I thought you were talking about this couple's daughter. Didn't read it carefully.

 

[Purplerain]

Mohammed bin Hamad bin Tahnoon (MBZ’s son in law), his brother Khalifa should be around the same age as his eldest child Hessa?
His Dad Hamad looks very young too.
Does anyone know what Tahnoon bin Hamad looks like?

 

[Puchu]

Mohammed bin Hamad bin Tahnoon (MBZ’s son in law), his brother Khalifa should be around the same age as his eldest child Hessa?
His Dad Hamad looks very young too.
Does anyone know what Tahnoon bin Hamad looks like?

Khalifa can be younger than Hessa or her age. Sheikh Hamad and his sons except Mohammed appear less in public.
This is Tahnoun in black bisht.

https://www.instagram.com/p/3ZJSTAjb13/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

 

[Purplerain]

Thanks.
Father and sons are very handsome.

 

[Puchu]

According to the political culture of leadership book, Aisha Al Darmaki's second eldest son got married to a daughter of Mohammad bin Butti Al Hamid Qubaisi, this means Nahyan bin Zayed married that woman. Is this authentic?

Feiraguy, can you explain this?

Additionally, I am sorry to Feiraguy and Whitepaper for talking outside of politics. You guys were discussing nicely without my intervention.

 

[feiraguy]

I think she is Fakhra bint Nahyan bin Hamdan and her mother is also Salama bint Mohammed bin Khalid.

Do you know the Al Qassimi husband's full name?

The name of Salama's husband is Mohammed bin Mayed Al Qassimi. They had their third child baby Fakhra. From Salama's account on instagram I assume they married in 2020. In 2021 they had Sheikha, then in 2022 Hamdan and now in March 2023 baby Fakhra.

Do you know whom did Fakhra bint Nahyan bin Hamdan marry? Also which brand is Nahyan bin Hamdan?

What is Salama's full name? Is she also an Al Qassimi?
I actually made a mistake. I thought you were talking about a daughter of Nahyan Al Nahyan and Salama Al Nahyan. As I knew Salama bint Mohammed bin Khalid married Nahyan bin Hamdan, so I thought you were talking about this couple's daughter. Didn't read it carefully.

Nahyan bin Hamdan has two daughters, the eldest is married to Mohamed bin Saeed bin Mohamed, and the youngest is still single.

I don't know who this Sheikha is either

Nahyan bin Hamdan is from the lineage of "Bani Mohamed", his half sister is MBZ's wife, his full sister is Hamdan bin Zayed's wife

 

[feiraguy]

For the first time am seeing Zayed MBZ. He looks exactly like young MBZ. He is making public appearances too. Interesting.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CrGTPteotg4/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Hamdan looks like old MBZ and Zayed looks like young MBZ

 

[feiraguy]

Mohammed bin Hamad bin Tahnoon (MBZ’s son in law), his brother Khalifa should be around the same age as his eldest child Hessa?
His Dad Hamad looks very young too.
Does anyone know what Tahnoon bin Hamad looks like?

Khalifa graduated from school in 2021, he is probably a year younger than Hessa.

In the video below he appears giving a graduation speech

https://twitter.com/x/status/1402528296374575106

The video below is from Tahnoun's wedding, he appears in the first moment of the video (with glasses)

After him in the row is Khalifa bin Hamad (still a child), and after Khalifa is Khalid bin Khalifa bin Shakhbout, married to the eldest daughter of Hamad bin Tahnoun

His father appears at 0:13 (the one with the beard) next to Omar bin Zayed

 

[feiraguy]

Feiraguy, can you explain this?

Additionally, I am sorry to Feiraguy and Whitepaper for talking outside of politics. You guys were discussing nicely without my intervention.

I consulted the book, there is a possibility that there was some error on the part of the author; or the marriage was not lasting, all Nahyan's children (Zayed, the eldest is from 2004) are from his wife, daughter of Mohamed bin Khalid Al Nahyan

 

[Purplerain]

Does anyone know the age of Shamsa bin Hamdan bin Mohammed - Hamdan bin zayed ‘s wife.

Also does someone know the ages of her children?
It seems like her eldest is Fatima and then Zayed?

 

[Serenei]

What is Salama's full name? Is she also an Al Qassimi?
I actually made a mistake. I thought you were talking about a daughter of Nahyan Al Nahyan and Salama Al Nahyan. As I knew Salama bint Mohammed bin Khalid married Nahyan bin Hamdan, so I thought you were talking about this couple's daughter. Didn't read it carefully.

Oh I see, that’s okay. Her name is Salama H. Al Qassimi. She named her first son Hamdan so I thought maybe her father’s name is also Hamdan. Not sure though

 

[Serenei]

Nahyan bin Hamdan has two daughters, the eldest is married to Mohamed bin Saeed bin Mohamed, and the youngest is still single.

I don't know who this Sheikha is either

Nahyan bin Hamdan is from the lineage of "Bani Mohamed", his half sister is MBZ's wife, his full sister is Hamdan bin Zayed's wife

Oh thank you for clearing things up!

 

[Puchu]

Does anyone know the age of Shamsa bin Hamdan bin Mohammed - Hamdan bin zayed ‘s wife.
It seems like her eldest is Fatima and then Zayed?

Don't know Shamsa's age but I think she is from late 60s. Yes, Fatima is the eldest child of her. She got married in 1988.
So, I assume Fatima was born in 1989 or in the end of 1988. Zayed is from 1990. Latifa from 1991, Salama from 1992. Not sure about Hazza's age, I predict he is from 1994-1996. Yas from 1998 and youngest Rashid was born in 2006.

 

[whitepaper]

Hamdan looks like old MBZ and Zayed looks like young MBZ

I think Hamdan very slightly resembles old MBZ...MBZ sons look good, no offence but MBZ is more handsome than his sons and brothers of course...

Yesterday his gesture of pulling chair for Brazil president was so nice, he comes across as humble and hard working and keeps his brothers and staff on their toes. ..

 

[Puchu]

......no offence but MBZ is more handsome than his sons and brothers of course...

I am not sure if you are talking this based on their looks. To me, Hazza is the most handsome one among all bin Zayeds. He is approaching to 60s but still looks good.


Is any al nahyan woman married to Faisal bin Mohammed Al Mualla?

 

[feiraguy]

Do you believe that the negotiation that resulted in the recent appointments somehow involved the future marriage of the Crown Prince's son?

Remembering that Mansour has a daughter one year younger than Mohamed, Tahnoun has a granddaughter eight years younger and Hazza today has no daughter or granddaughter close to the age of the possible future Crown Prince.

 

[Puchu]

...Remembering that Mansour has a daughter one year younger than Mohamed, Tahnoun has a granddaughter eight years younger and Hazza today has no daughter or granddaughter close to the age of the possible future Crown Prince.

Previously, we didn’t know about Fatima bint Mohammad bin Suroor. She is almost 2/1 years younger than bin khaled. Don’t you think she is also in the priority list?

 

[feiraguy]

Previously, we didn’t know about Fatima bint Mohammad bin Suroor. She is almost 2/1 years younger than bin khaled. Don’t you think she is also in the priority list?

I believe two marriages in a row involving Crown Princes and Surour's male lineage is too much for him. It is possible that the President and Crown Prince choose to prioritize political issues and want a marriage with the lineage of Tahnoun, Mansour or Hazza.

If Ahmed bin Tahnoun and Sheikha bint Surour had a girl, I would consider her one of the favorites for Mohamed, as it would involve Tahnoun bin Mohamed's male lineage.

The daughters of Shakhbout bin Nahyan (granddaughter of Hamdan bin Zayed and Nahyan bin Mubarak) and Khalifa bin Tahnoun (granddaughter of Hamdan bin Zayed and Tahnoun bin Mohamed) are also strong names.