Okay.
I'm not going after you, Lula, you are a respected poster here on TRF, but the points you list here.
- The photos were taken on October 25.
I believe I read somewhere that he was in Spain sailing about that time. Need to verify that though.
- They are not old friends, according to Genoveva, Frederik was going to visit some university friends in Spain, but one of them fell ill and asked her to accompany him.
According to Ekstra Bladet, Genoveva said that she and a number of her friends were old friends of Frederik.
So logically she at the very least belongs to a circle of friends. And I can't see someone Frederik vaguely knows just standing in for an old friend who fell ill. It's hardly a high-level meeting, it would just be cancelled if a friend fell ill.
- They were at the Thyssen museum, El Retiro, having dinner at a restaurant and at Genoveva's house.
They went to a museum. Frederik has a keen interest in art.
They went for a mouthful of fresh air in a park.
They had dinner (at a presumably very public) restaurant. Hardly out of the ordinary.
Then they went to her home. Hardly out of the ordinary to visit the home of on old friend, is it?
- According to Genoveva, Frederik was in a hotel. According to the photographers, he slept at Genoveva's house, and there are photos of him entering with one outfit and leaving with another, and leaving the house with the suitcase and being picked up by an embassy car.
He had a suitcase brought to the home of Genoveva. She offered him a place to crash for the night. Perhaps more fun than staying at a hotel, even if it's a suite.
So he had a change of clothes and presumably a shower and a shave. Nice. he is well groomed then.
- Frederick is not known in Spain, if he had been with a normal woman he would have gone unnoticed, but Genoveva is famous. It is normal for the press to follow her, especially in recent weeks when her ex-husband has had a public confrontation with his family over the family business.
Well, then this is perhaps the most indiscreet "affair" for the last 200 or so years within the DRF.
Then I would imagine that Genoveva would advise Frederik
not to come to her house, and
not to meet in Spain if possible.
If she had stayed the night in Frederik's suite at the hotel,
then my alarm bells would begin to make sound. But Frederik spending the night at the home of someone who lives in Madrid sounds more innocent to me.
She is divorced from a son of Cayetana, Duchess of Alba, she was the girlfriend of a son of the writer Vargas Llosa, she had a relationship with a well-known politician (which when the press made it public she denied, but it was true) and has even been related to the singer Luis Miguel. She goes to events, parties, she and her friends are regulars on Hola, and she has participated in television shows such as Masterchef and Mask Singer.
So she is a local celeb and there is a lot of gossip around her and she has been in relationships. And like most celebs the gossip mags have paired her with everybody and they pet turtle.
Sounds slightly judgemental to me.
- According to her Instagram, Genoveva was in Copenhagen for the first time on October 6.
Quite a few Spanish visit Copenhagen these years, something about culture, food and getting away from the heat in the summer. Perhaps she visited Frederik -
and Mary and their children who all have ears and eyes (believe me!)
Again, if you are having an affair, don't do it right in front of everybody.
What's your source on Casanova saying they are not old friends?
