Am I Bothered
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If anyone has more pictures of royals in uniform please post them.
And please ensure the pics are posted via a hosting site such as Photobucket, ImageShack etc, and not attached directly to the Forums.Am I Bothered said:If anyone has more pictures of royals in uniform please post them.
Scott said:Please forgive me asking but do they not have 2nd Lieutenants anymore (1 pip) or do they now graduate as a full Lieutenant (2 pips) ? Just curious.
Scott
Von Schlesian said:HI Scott. 'They' (The British/commonwealth Armies) certainly have Second Lieutenants. The rank is normally held by for between 1-2 years depending on the Corps/Regimental posting of the officer concerned.
All General Service Officers (commissiones officers not already possessing a civilian qualification such as Doctor/Teacher/Priest/Psychologist etc), enter the Army as second lieutenants. In Australia, the system is slightly different with the other institution attached to the officer training establishment, the Royal Military College - Duntroon, but as for RMC - Sandhurst, all of it's GSO graduates, are Second Lieutenants
Scott said:Thank you for your response. So Prince William will be a 2nd Lieutenant then, not a Lieutenant for the first two years.?Scott
Von Schlesian said:It certainly varies, but essentially yes. You're welcome for the response Scott, I apologise (given your service background), if the response seemed condescending.
THe Gentelman you refer to, is none other than His Royal Highness Prince Edward The Duke of Kent KG GCMG GCVO.Hereditary Mapmaker said:Help! Can someone please identify the gentleman in the third row, second from the left, in this photo? He is the one with the red band on his hat.
Thanks,
Mapper
Certainly not in the House of Windsor, not combat anyway.Hereditary Mapmaker said:Lastly, has anyone heard of any female royal serving in the military during actual combat?
Von Schlesian said:The manner by which they attain a commission (and they are wearing commissioned rank) is immaterial. Some members of Royal families choose to demonstrate the skill required to earn the commission through military instruction, others are happy to wear Honorary Rank.
Von Schlesian said:In the case of both Princes, they are Lieutenants (one a Second Lieutenant), in the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards, a Royal Armoured Corps Regiment of the British Army. They have both earned a commission from Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.
crisiñaki said:Thanks for your info Von Schlesian, but I have another question:
Are those uniforms danish or british?, because they look a lot like the ones that Frederik and Joachim wear and both Pavlos and Nikolaos are wearing the danish blue sash
And besides, I don't remember seeing either one with an uniform again not even in Frederik's wedding
Von Schlesian said:You're welcome Crisinaki.
The uniforms they are wearing are not in the Danish Order of Battle. (That is a term which refers to corps seniority within armies of the world). I'm quite accustomed to identifying Military uniforms (particularly, British), and have quite a background in Military protocol (it being one of my specialist subjects). The uniforms being worn by the Princes, are undoubtedly British. The 'Danish Blue Sash' I'm afraid, is not quite accurate. (As you were referring to the Sash of the Order of the Elephant), the sash and breast star of the Order, are certainly not the Order of the Elephant, as the Sash of the Order is always suspended ober the left shoulder (like the Orders of the Garter and Thistle in the United Kingdom).
They are both wearing the insignia of the Grand Cross of the Redeemer (which could quite easily be confused with the Order of the Elephant).
I hope I've been able to clear that up for you. (I admit, it's quite tricky, Princes of Greece and Denmark, wearing the only Order in a British Military uniform which would be confused with that of another country)
Von Schlesian said:You're most welcome Crisinaki. (There's a very limited demand for that kind of information, in day-to-day life, it really is quite irrelevant). Rank insignia is rather less cimplicated (in most cases), than Orders (especially those that look alike). I hope my manner of responding doesn't make me seem full of too much hot air!