Has anyone heard of Seborga, where the prince is democratically elected? http://seborga.net/help/index.html
I think the relevant point from the article is that the Bendictine Abbott "conferred the title of prince upon himself" after buying the land from a Count.oskana said:hmmmm.....never heard of it but its an interesting idea
Warren said:I think the relevant point from the article is that the Bendictine Abbott "conferred the title of prince upon himself" after buying the land from a Count.
And that bit about "constitutional experts" claiming that it cannot be considered part of the Italian Republic is a nonsense. Whatever happened with the demise of the Holy Roman Empire, or at the Congress of Vienna, has no relevance to the formation of the Kingdom of Italy in 1861.
A "principality" for gullible tourists and stamp collectors?
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kwanfan said:Do you think that countries are more willing to overthrow an elected monarch or royal family that started with an elected monarch?
As with tradition in Norway at the time, he also had to be "elected" by the Norwegians to a certain extent - ie. he had to journey around to the legal "tings" and be acknowledged by the people as their leader.Toledo said:
The situation in Greece was so uncertain when George was elected, that his father insisted that his descendants also carry the surplus title rince/ss of Denmark. When King Haakon was elected to be king of Norway a generation later - no such surplus title followed his descendants. A difference in the political situation? But maybe also a difference in the political climate in different corners of Europe?kwanfan said:I thought it would be interesting to look at some situations through history where a monarch has been elected.
King George I of Greece-Born a Danish Prince-Elected King of Greece at age 17.
Prince Alexander I of Bulgaria was elected in 1879.
Prince William of Albania was elected in 1914.
Carol I of Romania was elected in 1866.
King Haakon VII of Norway was elected in 1905.
These were some that I found on wikipedia. Are there any others?
It's interesting to me that 4 of the 5 monarchies that had elected monarchs are now overthrown. Do you think that countries are more willing to overthrow an elected monarch or royal family that started with an elected monarch?
Henri M. said:Following only the male lines of the thrones of Sweden, Carl Johan, once a French marshal, is the male-line ancestor to the heirs of the present throne of Sweden:
Carl XIV Johan, King of Sweden and Norway x Queen Desideria (Désirée Clary)
Oskar I, King of Sweden and Norway x Queen Josefina (Joséphine de Beauharnais, Princess of Leuchtenberg)
Carl XV, King of Sweden and Norway x Queen Lovisa (Louise Princess of the Netherlands, Princess of Orange-Nassau)
Oskar II, King of Sweden and Norway x Queen Sofia (Sofia Princess of Nassau)
Gustaf V, King of Sweden x Queen Victoria (Viktoria Princess of Baden)
Gustaf VI, Adolf King of Sweden x Queen Margaretha (Princess Margaret of Connaught)
Gustaf Adolf, Prince of Sweden x Princess Sibylla (Sibylla Princess of Saxen-Coburg and Gotha)
Carl XVI Gustaf, King of Sweden x Queen Silvia (Silvia Sommerlath)
Victoria, Crown Princess of Sweden
Marengo said:Wasn't Catherine de Medici's 3rd and favourite son elected King of Poland?
He later became King of France due to the deaths of his elder brothers.
True, even though I actually didn't notice it. But Margareth was the one, who brought new heirs into the royal family, not Louise.norwegianne said:Excellent, Henri M. One note, though. Margaretha died before becoming queen, so her title was Crown Princess Margaretha. Gustaf VI Adolf's queen was Queen Louise (née Louise Mountbatten/Battenberg).
Furienna said:
True, even though I actually didn't notice it. But Margareth was the one, who brought new heirs into the royal family, not Louise.
I didn't think about Jean Baptiste Bernadotte, when I opened this thread. Maybe because I consider him more "chosen" to be a king than "elected".
magnik said:Yes, but we in POLAND had few elected kings. From Grand Duke Władysław Jagiełło's (he was a husband of the Polish King Jadwiga later known as Saint Jadwiga the Queen) election to 1573 we had principle elections of the Jagiellon Dynasty. After Władysław II we had 6 kings from this family: Władysław III of Varna, Kazimierz IV (husband of Elisabeth of Austria known as Mother of the Kings), Jan I, Alexander, Zygmunt I the Old, Zygmunt II August (husband of Elisabeth of Austria, Barbara Radziwiłł and Catherine of Austria).
List of Polish monarchs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
After extint of Jagiellon's since 1573 we had 13 elected kings.
Free election - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
-Belgium: I'm not sure, but I believe that Leopold I was German (I believe that he was born in Coburgo).
The Kings of the Two Sicilies and the Dukes of Parma came from the Spanish Royal Family, that itself comes from France...