AristoCat said:Well, the Vladimirs were known to be incredibly ambitious.
There is also the mystery of which daughter was a carrier; I wonder if danger of passing on the disease ever occured to Nicholas and Alexandra? There was a zone of silence when it came to Alix getting married and she appeared to be in denial that she was possibly a carrier.
SweetLana said:I was reading in Queen Marie of Romania's memoirs that the question if any of the tsar's daughters was a carrier of hemophilia was an issue when Olga was considered a possible bride for Carol. We don't know whether Nicholas and Alexandra were considering this but apparently other royal families were concerned over this possibility.
I was reading in Queen Marie of Romania's memoirs that the question if any of the tsar's daughters was a carrier of hemophilia was an issue when Olga was considered a possible bride for Carol. We don't know whether Nicholas and Alexandra were considering this but apparently other royal families were concerned over this possibility.
Even if there wasn't as much knowledge about hemophilia in the beginning of the 20th century, Alexandra had had a brother and a nephew who had died young and also had an uncle, a couple of cousins and sons to her female cousins with hemophilia, so it's not surprising if other royals would be speculating if there could be something "wrong" with Alexandra's daughters and not be interested in having them as daughters-in-law.I don't believe it was a lack of caring whether hemophilia spread on Alexandra's part more a lack of education of society in general. What we know now about the disease, of course wasn't known then.
I don't recall reading that before. Was that in Massie's book or another one? It's good to know that it was at least mentioned during the time and appeared to be somewhat known what was going on within the family. The fact that there were four girls makes me theorize that there had to be at least one who was a carrier, possibly two. The reason I brought it up is because Alexandra didn't seem to think about the possibility of her having a son with hemophilia when she accepted Nicholas' proposal; rather than thinking she just didn't care, I assume it was more like she didn't want to think it was possible and was still operating under the cone of silence about it that had started with Victoria. Perhaps the reason she didn't care so much about marriage for her daughters is she knew the hemophilia issue was going to be a problem for them getting husbands. Also Alexei's illness dominated her life from the day it was discovered he indeed had the disease.
There is also the mystery of which daughter was a carrier; I wonder if danger of passing on the disease ever occured to Nicholas and Alexandra? There was a zone of silence when it came to Alix getting married and she appeared to be in denial that she was possibly a carrier.
Intersting. I've read somewhere that Alix knew shwe was a carrier (not strange, Queen Victoria spread hemophilia to all Royal families..) and she was very suffering and feeling guilty that she transmitted to her son. Especially since after 4 daughters this boy came like a heaven gift!
I know that Louis battenburg an uncle of the duke of Edinburgh had a crush on his cousin the grand duchess Maria nikolaievna and that he even kept a picture of her by his bed. Tatiana could have possibly married prince Christopher of Greece and Anastasia could have possibly married crown prince Albert I of Belgium .maria's was true and for tatya it could have been possible as well as Ana.
Did Prince Louis of Battenburg have the correct qualifications to marry an Imperial Grand Duchess of Russia?
Did Prince Louis of Battenburg have the correct qualifications to marry an Imperial Grand Duchess of Russia?
But those members who did marry Leutchenbergs, Yusupovs, and Bagrations weren’t the ones from the ruling branches but junior or cadet branches. It wasn’t just a matter of being closely related (which the Orthodox Church was against), the Battenbergs also weren’t rich. The Bagrations were actually a formerly ruling family so it would have been a much more prestigious match compared to a Battenberg. The Yusupovs were an old family from the Norgai horde who were prominent and became even more prominent when they became part of Russian society, not to mention the wealthiest noble house in all Russias. Even if they weren’t continuing the dynasty, I highly doubt Nicholas would allow for a Battenberg-Romanov match considering how he dealt with a few others for their morganatic marriages.Russian grand duchesses and princesses had been allowed to marry into both the Leuchtenberg, Yusupov and Bagration families before so a marriage to a Battenberg can't be completely discarded. Especially not with Louis who was very closely related to the imperial family.
The main reason for the imperial couple to refuse a marriage between Maria and Louis would have been that they where first cousins and as such not allowed to marry by the Orthodox Church.
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I don’t think he was much interested in the Romanov princesses. His interests were in married women and American women. Plus personality wise it wouldn’t work, David was a much more worldly and sociable person to the daughters of Nicholas II.If Prince Edward, The Prince of Wales, would have been able to court either Grand Duchess Olga or Grand Duchess Tatiana, perhaps an engagement and eventual wedding would have occurred.
At least with either Olga or Tatiana married to the heir of King George V of England, both the Prince and Princess of Wales (Edward and Olga {Tatiana}) could have persuaded George V to rescue the Russian Imperial Family.
Did Prince Louis of Battenburg have the correct qualifications to marry an Imperial Grand Duchess of Russia?
But those members who did marry Leutchenbergs, Yusupovs, and Bagrations weren’t the ones from the ruling branches but junior or cadet branches.
The Tsar wasn’t happy with the match especially because of the Leutchenberg connections to the Bonapartes, but he allowed it as long as they lived in Russia. After her husband died, she remarried to a Russian Count from the Stroganov family, that marriage was not recognised and she was not permitted to live in Russia. Her brother was aware of the marriage but did not recognise it.Grand Duchess Maria Nikolaievna, oldest daughter of Emperor Nicholas I. married Maximilian, Duke of Leuchtenberg.