Harry Algar Nigel Orde-Powlett (his full name), better known by his noble title, Lord Bolton, has died of cancer at the age of 69 at his residence, Bolton Castle, in Yorkshire, and surrounded of his family.
https://www.vanitatis.elconfidencia...olton-harry-orde-powlett-mujer-hijos_3671413/
wives of peers are commoners.
Nancy Witcher Langhorne Astor, Viscountess Astor, CH (19 May 1879 – 2 May 1964) was an American-born British politician who was the first woman seated as a Member of Parliament (MP), serving from 1919 to 1945.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Astor,_Viscountess_Astor
She was wife of a peer and was seated in the House of Commons.
Only commoners had right to sit in in the House of Commons.
Nothing would change much. The House of Lords is certainly never going to get the power it used to have since Lloyd George. The peers that care to attend HOL will still attend but those not interested won’t come.Since we are talking about the House of Lords and commons.
How different do you guys think the peers would be if the reform act of 1999 never happened?
Lord Max Percy – son of the Duke of Northumberland – is selling off his 9,500 acre Northumberland estate for £35 million.
https://www.tatler.com/article/lord-max-percy-is-selling-off-his-9500-acre-estate-rothbury
Especially as it's been in the Percy family for nearly 700 years.I wonder what his father who most likely gifted the estate to his younger son thinks of it.
I don’t think his dad is bothered about it.I wonder what his father who most likely gifted the estate to his younger son thinks of it.
The National Trust doesn’t have to raise the money on its own. National lottery Fund as well as donations from private donations usually help in these things too.Especially as it's been in the Percy family for nearly 700 years.
It'd be wonderful if the National Trust could buy it, but I doubt that they could raise £35 million.
Lord Max Percy – son of the Duke of Northumberland – is selling off his 9,500 acre Northumberland estate for £35 million.
https://www.tatler.com/article/lord-max-percy-is-selling-off-his-9500-acre-estate-rothbury
Most Dukes aren’t really wealthy. The few Earls and viscounts who are wealthy are because of newer industry like media e.g. but yes some have done well, others not so muchI didn't know the Duke of Northumberland was worth £315 million. Amazing. Most of the Dukes (other than maybe 2) are very wealthy, some even close to hitting the billon dollar range.
Other members of the nobility are wealthy as well, many earls and viscount are billionaires. Seems like the nobles have done well for themselves in the past decade.
The Dukes of Norfolk are around 100 million or close to that. The Egerton family are rich mainly because of their art collection not land holdings.I would say that most of the Dukes are. Obviously there are some who aren’t but let’s look at the list. There are currently 24 non royal dukes.
The Grosvenors (Dukes of Westminster) are worth £10 billion and are one of the country's largest landowners.
The Wellesleys (Dukes of Wellington) are worth around £75m. The Cavendishes (Dukes of Devonshire) are currently worth around £905 million and their net worth keeps going up. The Howards (Dukes of Norfolk) are worth £100 million.
The Egertons (Dukes of Sutherland) are worth £585 million. The Scotts (Dukes of Buccleuch) are worth £260 million. The Lennoxes (Dukes of Richmond) are worth about £215 million. The Russells (Dukes of Bedford) are worth $620 million. The Spencer-Churchills (Dukes of Marlborough) are worth £183 million. The Manners (Dukes of Rutland) are worth £145 million.
The Somersets (Dukes of Beaufort) are worth £315 million. The Innes-Ker family (Dukes of Roxburghe) are worth £100 million.
So 12 out of 24 isn’t bad at all. There are some who don’t a net worth public so I’ve left them out.
I would say that most of the Dukes are. Obviously there are some who aren’t but let’s look at the list. There are currently 24 non royal dukes.
The Grosvenors (Dukes of Westminster) are worth £10 billion and are one of the country's largest landowners.
The Wellesleys (Dukes of Wellington) are worth around £75m. The Cavendishes (Dukes of Devonshire) are currently worth around £905 million and their net worth keeps going up. The Howards (Dukes of Norfolk) are worth £100 million.
The Egertons (Dukes of Sutherland) are worth £585 million. The Scotts (Dukes of Buccleuch) are worth £260 million. The Lennoxes (Dukes of Richmond) are worth about £215 million. The Russells (Dukes of Bedford) are worth $620 million. The Spencer-Churchills (Dukes of Marlborough) are worth £183 million. The Manners (Dukes of Rutland) are worth £145 million.
The Somersets (Dukes of Beaufort) are worth £315 million. The Innes-Ker family (Dukes of Roxburghe) are worth £100 million.
So 12 out of 24 isn’t bad at all. There are some who don’t a net worth public so I’ve left them out.
In one view, I don’t think that it would make a difference. The British press would try to look for something bad to embarrass the hypothetical bride. But I think if the bride was the daughter of a peer whose family were owners of a big media business like the Daily Mail, maybe the press treatment wouldn’t be much problematic. Alternatively, if the bride and her family were not controversial or weren't photographed a lot, the press treatment would be better.Fun alternate history question for you all: Do you think if Prince Willam married a daughter of an aristo/noble, would she have been treated better by the press than Kate or worse?
Not to mention, their art collection and hotel business,Moat are asset rich, not cash rich. The Devonshire’s are only so because they weren’t afraid to sell the life out of Chatsworth which is big business and they are not embarrassed to work it for all it’s worth. The Duchess goes to every wedding they hold there and like the previous one is an extremely savvy business woman.
I agree, I think the press would've probably labelled her as snobbish or at least something bad. I also agree that if she was the daughter of a peer whose family were owners of a big media business like the Daily Mail they probably wouldn't be all that bad, or even if her father had a lot of money. There would be a lot more comparisons to Diana and the Spencers as well.In one view, I don’t think that it would make a difference. The British press would try to look for something bad to embarrass the hypothetical bride. But I think if the bride was the daughter of a peer whose family were owners of a big media business like the Daily Mail, maybe the press treatment wouldn’t be much problematic. Alternatively, if the bride and her family were not controversial or weren't photographed a lot, the press treatment would be better.
All those could be possible scenarios. I wonder which member of the BRF will marry into the British nobility, but I don’t think that will happen anytime soon or at allI agree, I think the press would've probably labelled her as snobbish or at least something bad. I also agree that if she was the daughter of a peer whose family were owners of a big media business like the Daily Mail they probably wouldn't be all that bad, or even if her father had a lot of money. There would be a lot more comparisons to Diana and the Spencers as well.