Well, but this is a theory.... I bet, Prince Albert still supports Alexandre and his mother financially. And if this stops, they are in trouble.
And if they would go to a court whereever to sue Prince Albert to continue with this payments... - Good luck, since he enjoys legal immunity!
He definitely finances their lifestyle.Well, but this is a theory.... I bet, Prince Albert still supports Alexandre and his mother financially. And if this stops, they are in trouble.
And if they would go to a court whereever to sue Prince Albert to continue with this payments... - Good luck, since he enjoys legal immunity!
I'm sure that Prince Albert will equally split his personal fortune between his 4 kids and his wife of course. Their right to the Monaco throne is another subject and for me there is no doubt that it belongs only to Jacques and Gabriella.
As for Alexandre, if it is true Prince Albert and Nicole had 5 years relationship being both unmarried. If Albert wanted to marry Nicole, make her the Princess of Monaco and their baby the heir ... nothing was empeaching him to do. But he didn't..
Why he will do it now?
Having a legal spouse and two heirs?
She doesn’t come from a wealthy family so yes Albert definitely has been funding her lifestyle. When Alexandre was born, she had a house in the South of France with a car and luxuries. Plus Albert subsided her now defunct fashion business in London. As long as he doesn’t remarry to Nicole, then there’s no need to change anything.I agree that it seems some plan by Nicole, and it isn't very nice IMO. She has a nice life thanks to Albert (most likely) and shouldn't be trying to cause trouble for Charlene. If Albert had wanted her or their child to be in the RF and have an official role he would have married her before or after Alexandre was born. I wonder out of interest, if there a way Albert could change the laws and rules in a way which would now make it so Alexandre can't become eligible for the succession e.g. removing the clause allowing Alexandre to be legitimised by his parents one day marrying? I don' think Albert should do this but wonder how much leverage he may have to flex to Nicole if needed.
I wonder out of interest, if there a way Albert could change the laws and rules in a way which would now make it so Alexandre can't become eligible for the succession e.g. removing the clause allowing Alexandre to be legitimised by his parents one day marrying?
But why would it not be true for Jazmin? Neither the Civil Code, the House Law or the Constitution (all three documents have been linked on this page of this thread) make any distinction between children born from an extramarital affair and children born of two unmarried parents.
I believe his spokesman later clarified that they are in the line of succession to his private property.
No, Prince Louis II's out-of-wedlock daughter Charlotte was given inheritance rights to the principality of Monaco as well as the princely family fortune, but she was never legitimated. Various laws and decrees made explicit that if her father ever had legitimate children, they would displace her as his heir.
From the 1911 princely decree:
https://journaldemonaco.gouv.mc/Journaux/1911/Journal-2797
The 1911 law making Charlotte a dynast was found to be invalid under an 1882 statute so the princely decree went out the window with that. She was subsequently adopted by her father in 1918(I realize the validity of this is shaky because the law stated that the adopting party had to be at least 50 years old and Louis was 48). Charlotte only became Princess of Monaco and Duchess of Valentinois after she was adopted. After 1911 she was only called Charlotte Grimaldi de Monaco, Mademoiselle de Valentinois.
I have a question regarding the rules about who can use the surname Grimaldi. Upthread someone said that Albert controls who can use it in Monaco.
How does that work with peope who travel there and happen to carry the surname Grimaldi? In many countries people can change their surnames to whatever they like.
I believe Alexandre will have a major role in the private business ventures of Prince Albert. He will never have a royal role, but I think he will work alongside his father and be a powerful man in the future.
He could even assist his younger brother Prince Jacques in some capacity, when Jacques comes to the throne.
I would love to see the siblings establish some sort of relationship. Why not? They are blood brothers.
How will this impact his future? Alexandre is already entitled to a share of his father’s assets after their father passes on so Alexandre won’t lose out on anything. Also, I think it’s wise if Alexandre finds something of his own to do that has nothing to do with the Principality. Plus Albert already financially supports them and has been doing so long before the twins were born.When Jacques is an adult he will decide whom he wants around him, this is why Nicole Coste is being short sighted. She has attacked Charlene on numerous occasions without possibly thinking that her son's long term future will depend on the goodwill of Charlene's children not Albert.
When Jacques is an adult he will decide whom he wants around him, this is why Nicole Coste is being short sighted. She has attacked Charlene on numerous occasions without possibly thinking that her son's long term future will depend on the goodwill of Charlene's children not Albert.
How will this impact his future? Alexandre is already entitled to a share of his father’s assets...
The only big interview Nicole has done was with Paris Match in 2021,
She also raises the status of "legitimacy" in this interview, raising the same points Alexandre did in Point de Vue. She says, "En bon français, et selon le Code civil, cela signifierait que ses deux parents auraient été engagés maritalement avec d’autres au moment de sa naissance, et que, de surcroît, il ne serait pas reconnu. Or ce n’était nullement le cas. Alexandre est né deux ans avant que ne commence l’idylle entre son père et Charlène en décembre 2005. Avant, ils s’étaient juste croisés. Il est faux de dire le contraire. Je tiens à le souligner, car ce doute a permis à la presse de continuer de faire croire que mon fils était illégitime."
No, he is not! He would be "entitled" under French Law, but Monaco is not France and Prince Albert is a Prince Sovereign with absolute legal immunity (besides crimes against humanity and such - See Putin!).
Prince Albert can do as he likes! If he wants to give Alexandre money, if he wants him to inherit something, he will... If not, then not!
Thank you very much for linking to the full text of her 2021 Paris Match interview - it is not easy to find.
It is interesting that Nicole Coste says "according to the Civil Code" when her comments clearly conflict with what the Civil Code states about legitimacy.
For example, Article 226-9 says:
Article 226-9
La légitimation peut bénéficier à tous les enfants nés hors du mariage pourvu que, par reconnaissance volontaire ou par jugement, leur filiation ait été légalement établie à l'égard de leurs deux auteurs.
Translation:
Legitimation may benefit all children born outside of marriage provided that, through voluntary recognition or through a judgment, their filiation has been legally established in regard to both their parents.
Therefore, all children born outside marriage can be legitimated, and there is no legal foundation for her claim that children born to married individuals outside of their marriages are less-legitimate than children born to unmarried individuals. (Is it a way of attempting to elevate her son above his half-sister Jazmin?)
In any case, Article 226-14 makes clear that her son is not legitimate according to the Civil Code:
Article 226-14
La légitimation confère à l'enfant légitimé les droits et les devoirs de l'enfant légitime.
Elle prend effet à la date du mariage.
Translation:
Legitimation confers on the legitimated child the rights and responsibilities of a legitimate child.
It takes effect on the date of the marriage.
Unfortunately, her inaccurate statements invite the question of whether she intentionally misrepresented the contents of the Civil Code or based her claims on unreliable sources and did not do due diligence by checking the Civil Code herself.
Here is the link to the Civil Code, so that anyone may find the answers themselves:
https://legimonaco.mc/code/code-civil/
Monaco's Civil Code also entitles certain people, including the decedent's children, to a reserved share of the estate: see e.g. book III, section I.
But you raise an interesting point about sovereign immunity - does it mean the monarch's private property cannot be forced to follow the civil laws of inheritance?
Section 226 pertains to children whose parents marry. If you read on to Section 232-237, it discusses filiation and recognition of illegitimate children. For fathers, it comes down to signing an official recognition, which, according to Nicole's court case, Albert did.
Yes, but I was referring to Nicole's comments on legitimacy, not her comments on recognition. I don't think anyone has disputed that Alexandre is recognized, but according to Monaco's Civil Code, and contrary to what he and his mother have said, he is still illegitimate because his parents have never married.
All legitimate children are recognized, but not all recognized children are legitimate, under the Civil Code.
Charlene was probably not invited. In any case, there’s no need for Charlene to be there. The issue is Nicole’s lack of discretion and her constantly coming to events in the Principality concerning the family like the balls and galas.