The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, News and Events 8: April - August 2023

[FigTree]

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Hacking trial: Prince Harry claims £440,000 in damages from Mirror Group Newspapers



I admit I know nothing about UK legal system, but in civil lawsuit like this, can one sue on behalf of someone's else? Considering the lawsuit is filled by Harry but it seems like some of the hacking/tapping (if it's true) being mentioned in this lawsuit was done to Chelsey and Diana.

I wonder will Harry accept the money if he ends up winning this case since he sort of insinuating that it's wrong for William to accept "Murdoch's money" when he settled

The argument between two lawyers on last quoted part above refers to this:

Convicted phone hacker is 'embedded' in Duke of Sussex’s team, says Mirror’s barrister

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No he isn’t. But there is less of a burden of proof than in a criminal case. But also lower threshold of including things. That type of information proves a background and a probability ratio of if it’s happened over there then it is happening here. Like in a rape case if ti becomes admissible that the defended had bee. Convicted previously.

 

[Claire]

I must admit that I expected he wanted a lot more then 440 000. I imagine he was spoken down - after providing no evidence and asking the court to provide it for him.

 

[Misskitty]

I wonder what the next event Harry attends would be? Maybe if Peter Phillips gets remarried?

I don't see either one of them going back. Could be wrong though

 

[FigTree]

I wonder what the next event Harry attends would be? Maybe if Peter Phillips gets remarried?

There won’t be anything coming up…god willing. We got spoilt the last 15 - 20 years with marriages and jubilees and coronations and babies. There may literally be nothing for another 20.

 

[Lady Chiara]

There won’t be anything coming up…god willing. We got spoilt the last 15 - 20 years with marriages and jubilees and coronations and babies. There may literally be nothing for another 20.

Yeah, I agree. I think the only things that may happen in the upcoming Years are Peter Phillips' wedding and some christenings, in 10 + years time Louise and James weddings. None of this events are big enough to be a motivation for the Sussexes to return to the UK if the relationship stays as frosty as it is now

 

[Alison H]

Harry's close friend Jack Mann got married last weekend, and Harry didn't return to the UK for that.

 

[FigTree]

Harry's close friend Jack Mann got married last weekend, and Harry didn't return to the UK for that.

Maybe one of the lost friends. I don't know if he has many left to be honest.

 

[UglyAmerican]

It's really sad. Does he believe that every single friend from his old life is so morally lacking that they need to be completely cut from his life?

 

[iceflower]

The Duke of Sussex and Lilibet were pictured attending a July 4th parade:


** dailymail article **

 

[Curryong]

Actually, though I’m not going to post it, the whole family, Meghan, Harry, Archie and Lili, were pictured by the side of the road in Montecito watching the July 4th Parade. The photos of the family were taken from a way away and are a bit blurry, but it’s definitely them. It was on a Page Six site.

The New York Post now has the photos. Lovely family day out.

https://nypost.com/2023/07/05/exclusive-photos-reveal-how-harry-meghan-kids-celebrated-july-4/

 

[FigTree]

It's really sad. Does he believe that every single friend from his old life is so morally lacking that they need to be completely cut from his life?

I mean we don’t know what happened. Harry himself said in the Netflix doc that he lost friends. Why exactly who knows. Some we know didn’t really survive his marriage to Meghan and others it could be just as much them as him.

 

[yukari]

This one is from Harry's lawsuit against the Sun:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-f...-secret-deal-claim-alice-in-wonderland-stuff/

Honestly I'm starting to get confused when reading about his hacking lawsuits, of which one is which. So the Mirror pushing on no evidence/re-reporting old news, the Sun pushing for the limitation statute. Is the one against ANL still ongoing or it's over (or was it the other lawsuit against ANL for the article about lawsuit against HO?). Oh boy, he's really busy with lawsuits, isn't he?

 

[Ghost]

This one is from Harry's lawsuit against the Sun:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-f...-secret-deal-claim-alice-in-wonderland-stuff/

Honestly I'm starting to get confused when reading about his hacking lawsuits, of which one is which. So the Mirror pushing on no evidence/re-reporting old news, the Sun pushing for the limitation statute. Is the one against ANL still ongoing or it's over (or was it the other lawsuit against ANL for the article about lawsuit against HO?). Oh boy, he's really busy with lawsuits, isn't he?

The archived link

Prince Harry’s ‘secret deal’ claim is ‘Alice in Wonderland’ stuff, Hi…

archived 5 Jul 2023 20:06:10 UTC

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[Hallo girl]

Let’s be honest it is not unusual for friendship circles to change after marriage, Never mind if somebody moves continents. People drift, priorities change, even more so if some are still single. It is also difficult for friends who do not want to take sides or be seen to take sides so they maybe step back. Harry also appears to have trust issues which probably doesn’t help.

 

[Curryong]

I don’t take a great deal of notice of popularity polls as a general rule. However I do trust YouGov as a polling company more than most. So this is pleasant reading for me.

https://www.newsweek.com/prince-harry-more-popular-prince-william-us-kate-middleton-poll-1811664

 

[Granada]

Curryong, thanks for the Newsweek link.
Of course, I love "feedback" and went to "the comment" section, and it was just as I could have predicted, slamming them. Out of 12 comments NOT ONE agreed with the poll "supposed* findings. I honestly did think that there might be a few supporters, but nope. Nothing.


Pretty scathing and VERY POINTED dismissive remarks about The Sussex's too. I don't know which is worse, that People ( Commenters) just don't care enough to post their thoughts on the Sussex's anymore OR that their was zero supportive comments.

Oh, and for the record for those who might not know, Newsweek leans left. Its readership certainly isn't conservative, that I can vouch for.

 

[Mbruno]

I don’t take a great deal of notice of popularity polls as a general rule. However I do trust YouGov as a polling company more than most. So this is pleasant reading for me.

https://www.newsweek.com/prince-harry-more-popular-prince-william-us-kate-middleton-poll-1811664

It is surprising to know that Kate is more popular than Harry in the US. It is also quite catasthropic for H&M that their popularity ratings in the United States have dropped respectively by 45 and 36 points since December in the Redfield & Wilton poll.

 

[Alison H]

I'm genuinely puzzled as to why these polls are conducted. You don't see polls in the UK regarding the popularity of Haakon and Mette-Marit, or Victoria and Daniel, and I assume you don't see polls in, say, France or Spain regarding the popularity of William and Kate.

 

[Curryong]

This is a YouGov poll. YouGov is the same company that reports on the BRF members with quarterly polls whose results are posted on this forum. So if H+M’s polling is incorrect then so must the BRF members. Yet YouGov is regarded as being extremely reliable and uses the best weighted methods.

 

[Alison H]

But it's completely irrelevant, unless the US suddenly decides to revoke the Declaration of Independence. No-one holds polls in the UK or any other country on the popularity of other countries' royal families. I genuinely don't see why these polls are conducted.

 

[TLLK]

It is surprising to know that Kate is more popular than Harry in the US. It is also quite catasthropic for H&M that their popularity ratings in the United States have dropped respectively by 45 and 36 points since December in the Redfield & Wilton poll.

I have to admit that I was surprised by that as well. I'm even more astonished that 3 British citizens were more popular than the American one in the U.S. You Gov poll.

 

[Toledo]

But it's completely irrelevant, unless the US suddenly decides to revoke the Declaration of Independence. No-one holds polls in the UK or any other country on the popularity of other countries' royal families. I genuinely don't see why these polls are conducted.

Polls are a major tool to use as news fillers, especially on politicians and celebrity scandals, and unfortunately the so-called credible news channels exploit them when there is nothing new to talk about. I don't trust a single one of them.

 

[TLLK]

Polls are a major tool to use as news fillers, especially on politicians and celebrity scandals, and unfortunately the so-called credible news channels exploit them when there is nothing new to talk about. I don't trust a single one of them.

Well it is summer and many of the royal families will be starting their holidays. I expect we will see more filler stories.

 

[SirGyamfi1]

I don’t take a great deal of notice of popularity polls as a general rule. However I do trust YouGov as a polling company more than most. So this is pleasant reading for me.

https://www.newsweek.com/prince-harry-more-popular-prince-william-us-kate-middleton-poll-1811664

It’s irrelevant in the long term what they think of William vs Harry. America isn’t going to be a monarchy anytime soon and William is not pandering to American approval and certainly does not need to. Good for Harry, but it’s not going to pay his bills or give him content for Netflix so the poll is pointless. They are certainly entitled to liking anyone they like, however it’s just childish because I have never heard of a YouGov.U.K. Poll on U.S leaders so……

 

[HenRach Dominion]

It's a harmless poll, and probably won't move the needle one-way or the other with regards to feelings about TRH The Sussexes. Regardless, it may give them some hope that a significant American newsmagazine like Newsweek, which is pretty center-leaning politically, still think they're enough of a draw to commission a poll about them.

It does show, however, that no matter what TRH The Sussexes do, they'll always be compared and connected to the working members of the family, for better or for worse. Much of it is their own doing, but I would bet my left arm that, even without the book, the interview, the Netflix series, and the titles, we would still get polls comparing them to TRH The Wales and TM The King and Queen.

 

[Erin9]

I have to admit that I was surprised by that as well. I'm even more astonished that 3 British citizens were more popular than the American one in the U.S. You Gov poll.

I’m not surprised. No one knew who Meghan was before Harry. And she (and Harry) are, at a minimum, quite controversial now. And something of a joke post car “chase”. Harry probably retains something of a sympathy factor here. Meghan has….I honestly don’t know what at this point….going for her in the eyes of the US public.

 

[Lilyflo]

I don’t take a great deal of notice of popularity polls as a general rule. However I do trust YouGov as a polling company more than most. So this is pleasant reading for me.

https://www.newsweek.com/prince-harry-more-popular-prince-william-us-kate-middleton-poll-1811664

Looking at the YouGov website, it appears that Harry's popularity in the US since 2020 ranges from 51% down to 46% and is currently 48% with a net favourability of +24 (same as Oprah Winfrey at +24)

Meghan's popularity ranges from 40% down to 34% and is currently 40% with a net favourability of +17. (similar to Chelsea Clinton at +18)

William's ranges from 46% down to 36% and is currently 43% with a net favourability of +22.

Catherine's ranges from from 46% to 34% and is currently 46% with a net favourability of +35. (similar to Michelle Obama at +36)

Given that Harry's net popularity (+24) in the US ranks the same as Oprah, this might enable him to sustain a future as a wealth generator and philanthropist.

 

[Asteria12]

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As for most popularity polls (on any of the BRF, former or currently serving), I think the level-headed amongst us would agree that they serve little purpose for any beyond the media, and as HenRach Dominion said, they won't move the needle one-way or the other on opinions about any of them.

 

[HenRach Dominion]

How famous someone is is relative, and this is coming from someone who didn't know who HRH The Duchess of Sussex was before she started dating HRH The Duke of Sussex. For example, I just found out about Anita Dobson today, but she's probably well-known and beloved in her native U.K. I would never be so presumptuous to assume that she was a nobody because I specifically didn't know her.

 

[Ghost]

How famous someone is is relative, and this is coming from someone who didn't know who HRH The Duchess of Sussex was before she started dating HRH The Duke of Sussex. For example, I just found out about Anita Dobson today, but she's probably well-known and beloved in her native U.K. I would never be so presumptuous to assume that she was a nobody because I specifically didn't know her.

And the reverse is valid. Just because someone knew about her doesn’t make her famous.
I think she was one of a cohort of starlets fighting hard to break through. She made it through marriage. The problem is that her marriage didn’t offer her what she was after - the life of a global celebrity. Royalty is not celebrity and in that respect I consider the Americans’ view of Harry vs William distorted.